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  • Any new character ideas for MK11 & those from MK4-MKA to return?

    - Perhaps new characters like acolytes of the One Being.

    - Any offsprings & relatives to join Cassie & the others?

    - Those from Chaosrealm & Seido?

    - Edenia in need of a return for new characters?

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    • I think Onaga and Hotaru will be present.

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    • It will mostly like this:

      -New Mortal Kombat Tournament with Earthrealm being it´s aggressor and Outworld being on the defense

      -The new deadly Allliance (Sub zero + Scorpion) will be strained

      -Takeda either did or will find Taven

      -Kano will fight his son

      -Raiden becomes the main Boss

      -Outworld will be saved

      -Cassie finds her limits

      and finally Deagon will own Kenshi and ressurect Onaga

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    • I doubt all of that will happen.

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    • I don't know, there are some things that could happen from that list.

      1. I do see Raiden becoming the main boss along with Onaga being a sub-boss and Daegon being a sub-sub-boss.

      2. Earthrealm being the aggressor might not happen. I would see Raiden invading Outworld purely to defeat Kotal Kahn before he would get a chance to invade Earthrealm.

      3. The new deadly alliance (if anyone) will be the two Dragon clans.

      4. A new character will be Kano's son.

      5. Returning and 3D era characters who will be in this game will be...

      Sonya Blade

      Johnny Cage

      Goro

      Kano

      Liu Kang (revenant)

      Noob Saibot (purified)

      Raiden (boss)

      Reptile

      Scorpion

      Blaze (cameo/DLC)

      Jax Briggs

      Jade (returning with the Mysterious Woman)

      Kitana (revenant)

      Kung Lao (revenant)

      Smoke (revenant)

      Sub-Zero

      Cyrax (revenant)

      Sektor (revenant)

      Kabal (revenant)

      Nightwolf (revenant)

      Sheeva

      Sindel (revenant)

      Stryker (revenant)

      Ermac

      Rain

      Fugin

      Jarek

      Kai

      Tanya

      Bo' Rai Cho

      Frost

      Kenshi

      Li Mei

      Nitara

      Onaga (sub-boss)

      Sareena

      Ashrah

      Dairou

      Darrius

      Hotaru

      Kira

      Kobra

      Shujinko

      Daegon (sub-sub boss)

      Taven

      Skarlet

      Cassie Cage

      D'Vorah

      Erron Black

      Ferra/Torr

      Jacqui Briggs

      Kotal Kahn

      Kung Jin

      Takeda

      Tremor

      Tri-Borg

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    • Wonder if they can remake Shujinko's MK Konquest story.

      If they can give Shujinko a second chance somehow.

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    • Probably will need to.

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    • Bmwfan2015 wrote:
      Wonder if they can remake Shujinko's MK Konquest story.

      If they can give Shujinko a second chance somehow.


      it´s more likely taven gets another chance rather than Shujinko

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    • Which number of remaining MK4-MKA characters deserves a second chance?

      - Kai

      - Jarek

      - Fujin

      - Frost

      - Nitara

      - Li Mei

      - Shujinko

      - Ashrah

      - Hotaru

      - Dairou

      - Darrius

      - Kira

      - Taven

      - Daegon

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    • Bmwfan2015 wrote:
      Which number of remaining MK4-MKA characters deserves a second chance?

      - Kai

      - Jarek

      - Fujin

      - Frost

      - Nitara

      - Li Mei

      - Shujinko

      - Ashrah

      - Hotaru

      - Dairou

      - Darrius

      - Kira

      - Taven

      - Daegon

      -Too underdeveloped

      -No chance at all

      -He would be like KK, less powerful, but far nicer

      -well there had been worse characters, she isn´t too bad

      -needs some changes in order to be more interesting

      -Of course, she is a great addition to the roster

      -No he should go and fuck himself

      -Maybe she could make an Cameo

      -As an Jobber only

      -Again a jobber

      -He gets less character development than kenshi, that´s for sure

      -meh never cared for her all that much, i´m not really interested in a female jobber like her

      -OMEGS YES DEFINETELY, HE NEEDS TO BE THE MAIN HERO AGAIN

      -A GREAT SUB-BOSS, MAKE HIM MORE INTERESTING

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    • Which revenants should be brought back mortals again for the next game? Jax & Kuai have been brought back.

      - Liu Kang?

      - Kitana?

      - Kung Lao?

      - Nightwolf?

      - Sindel?

      - Kabal?

      - Stryker?

      - Kabal?

      Jade's been missing. Hasn't been seen in a while.

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    • Dragonspyne wrote:
      I don't know, there are some things that could happen from that list.

      1. I do see Raiden becoming the main boss along with Onaga being a sub-boss and Daegon being a sub-sub-boss.

      2. Earthrealm being the aggressor might not happen. I would see Raiden invading Outworld purely to defeat Kotal Kahn before he would get a chance to invade Earthrealm.

      3. The new deadly alliance (if anyone) will be the two Dragon clans.

      4. A new character will be Kano's son.

      5. Returning and 3D era characters who will be in this game will be...

      Sonya Blade

      Johnny Cage

      Goro

      Kano

      Liu Kang (revenant)

      Noob Saibot (purified)

      Raiden (boss)

      Reptile

      Scorpion

      Blaze (cameo/DLC)

      Jax Briggs

      Jade (returning with the Mysterious Woman)

      Kitana (revenant)

      Kung Lao (revenant)

      Smoke (revenant)

      Sub-Zero

      Cyrax (revenant)

      Sektor (revenant)

      Kabal (revenant)

      Nightwolf (revenant)

      Sheeva

      Sindel (revenant)

      Stryker (revenant)

      Ermac

      Rain

      Fugin

      Jarek

      Kai

      Tanya

      Bo' Rai Cho

      Frost

      Kenshi

      Li Mei

      Nitara

      Onaga (sub-boss)

      Sareena

      Ashrah

      Dairou

      Darrius

      Hotaru

      Kira

      Kobra

      Shujinko

      Daegon (sub-sub boss)

      Taven

      Skarlet

      Cassie Cage

      D'Vorah

      Erron Black

      Ferra/Torr

      Jacqui Briggs

      Kotal Kahn

      Kung Jin

      Takeda

      Tremor

      Tri-Borg

      Great choices.

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    • Bmwfan2015 wrote:
      Which revenants should be brought back mortals again for the next game? Jax & Kuai have been brought back.

      - Liu Kang?

      - Kitana?

      - Kung Lao?

      - Nightwolf?

      - Sindel?

      - Kabal?

      - Stryker?

      - Kabal?

      Jade's been missing. Hasn't been seen in a while.

      I think Liu Kang, Kung Lao and Kitana are among the obvious ones there. Because NetherRealm did them dirty in the last game. 

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    • Blitz4560 wrote:
      Bmwfan2015 wrote:
      Which revenants should be brought back mortals again for the next game? Jax & Kuai have been brought back.

      - Liu Kang?

      - Kitana?

      - Kung Lao?

      - Nightwolf?

      - Sindel?

      - Kabal?

      - Stryker?

      - Kabal?

      Jade's been missing. Hasn't been seen in a while.

      I think Liu Kang, Kung Lao and Kitana are among the obvious ones there. Because NetherRealm did them dirty in the last game. 

      Well Lao & Kitana maybe. But Liu is too caught up with a grudge right now.

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    • Bmwfan2015 wrote:
      Blitz4560 wrote:
      Bmwfan2015 wrote:
      Which revenants should be brought back mortals again for the next game? Jax & Kuai have been brought back.

      - Liu Kang?

      - Kitana?

      - Kung Lao?

      - Nightwolf?

      - Sindel?

      - Kabal?

      - Stryker?

      - Kabal?

      Jade's been missing. Hasn't been seen in a while.

      I think Liu Kang, Kung Lao and Kitana are among the obvious ones there. Because NetherRealm did them dirty in the last game. 
      Well Lao & Kitana maybe. But Liu is too caught up with a grudge right now.

      KItana isn´t much nicer, as the Queen of the Netherrealm, she is going to be a sadistic bitch, torturing thousands of people just to satisfy her hatred. She is just as much in the dirt as Liu Kang is. Kung Lao might be salvagable as he is only there because of his mistakes.

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    • Lord of Paradise wrote:

      Bmwfan2015 wrote:
      Blitz4560 wrote:
      Bmwfan2015 wrote:
      Which revenants should be brought back mortals again for the next game? Jax & Kuai have been brought back.

      - Liu Kang?

      - Kitana?

      - Kung Lao?

      - Nightwolf?

      - Sindel?

      - Kabal?

      - Stryker?

      - Kabal?

      Jade's been missing. Hasn't been seen in a while.

      I think Liu Kang, Kung Lao and Kitana are among the obvious ones there. Because NetherRealm did them dirty in the last game. 
      Well Lao & Kitana maybe. But Liu is too caught up with a grudge right now.

      KItana isn´t much nicer, as the Queen of the Netherrealm, she is going to be a sadistic bitch, torturing thousands of people just to satisfy her hatred. She is just as much in the dirt as Liu Kang is. Kung Lao might be salvagable as he is only there because of his mistakes.

      What about the others if Lao wants to be saved?

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    • Will Johnny & Sonya be turned into revenants in the next game? Or one of them? I think Sonya.

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    • Unless they mirror what happened to Liu Kang in Deadly Alliance, I doubt they'll kill off Sonya or Johnny.

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    • Any relatives/offsprings you'd like to see appear in the next game?

      With that rumor of Kano's son in the Red Dragon, I think I better be impressed somehow.

      What about those related to Nightwolf, Kabal & Stryker? Maybe Liu & Kitana to have one somehow.

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    • I would like a new Native American character. I'd also like a Celtic themed character. Perhaps a Irish or Scottish who is inspired to ressurect some the traditions of his or her ancestors by the Lin Kuei, or a new God or Goddess of Nature inspired by Celtic lore. I pictured them like this.

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    • Godzillavkk wrote:
      I would like a new Native American character. I'd also like a Celtic themed character. Perhaps a Irish or Scottish who is inspired to ressurect some the traditions of his or her ancestors by the Lin Kuei, or a new God or Goddess of Nature inspired by Celtic lore. I pictured them like this.
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      I'd like to see a relative of Nightwolf. Not as a daughter, but as a niece. Her mother or father is a druid and father or mother is a shaman, whose related to Nightwolf.

      She can control plants & animals. She might take part of bringing back her uncle and the other revenants.

      I like your part in the Celtic myth. What about other myths like Egyptian? Slavic? Altaic? Greek? Roman? Hindu? Sumerian? Babylonian? Mesopotamian? Zoroastrian? Orisha? Yoruba? Vodou?

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    • I'd love to see a god inspired by Anubis. As for a neice or nephew of Nightwolf, his/her parents should both be shamans as druids were Celtic priests.

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    • Bmwfan2015 wrote:
      Godzillavkk wrote:
      I would like a new Native American character. I'd also like a Celtic themed character. Perhaps a Irish or Scottish who is inspired to ressurect some the traditions of his or her ancestors by the Lin Kuei, or a new God or Goddess of Nature inspired by Celtic lore. I pictured them like this.
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      I'd like to see a relative of Nightwolf. Not as a daughter, but as a niece. Her mother or father is a druid and father or mother is a shaman, whose related to Nightwolf.

      She can control plants & animals. She might take part of bringing back her uncle and the other revenants.

      I like your part in the Celtic myth. What about other myths like Egyptian? Slavic? Altaic? Greek? Roman? Hindu? Sumerian? Babylonian? Mesopotamian? Zoroastrian? Orisha? Yoruba? Vodou?

      Well i have an idea for some characters: Apep, once a shaolin monk, now a dark sorceror, who holds great powers over darkness, poison and snakes.

      Ea: God of Water and a close friend to Raiden and fujin. He is the one responsible for the creation of all Civilizations in Earthrealm and Seido.

      Dayhawk: Nightwolf´s younger brother, he calls upon the power of the spirits and has an hawk spirit that guides him.

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    • Will these other MK4-MKA characters take part of next game too?

      - Blaze

      - Onaga

      - Khameleon

      - Chameleon

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    • Without a doubt we will see Blaze & Onaga in the future, but only as cameo in MK 11

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    • I can see Onaga as a sub-boss to Raiden. I suppose Onaga could be the main baddy of the game but Raiden would just be more of a twist.

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    • I dunno if having Raiden as the villains would be a twist.

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    • Skarlet and Nitara need a revamp along with a werewolf-themed character(or bring Night Wolf back as one), more named Gods and Elder Gods, Blaze revamped

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    • I like to see a new Kytinn warrior take D'Vorah's place. An arachnid Kytinn named Anansi named after the African trickster.

      He'll side with Kotal & team up with Reptile.

      Can any of the MK4-MKA characters act as cameos in the next game as Li Mei, Sareena, Bo'Rai Cho, Tanya & Fujin? I can see Dairou assist the heroes. Maybe even Ashrah too if possible.

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    • @Godzillavkk: Having Raiden as the final boss would be unexpected to the untypical MK fan. Besides, I don't think the final boss has to be a full on villain to be the final boss but it would create an interesting mechanic.

      @Guldir: I think Nightwolf as a werewolf would be a lot of fun.

      @Bmwfan: I like an arachnid Kytinn. And personally, I would really want to see all your mentioned characters as playable characters in the next one.

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    • Dragonspyne wrote:
      @Godzillavkk: Having Raiden as the final boss would be unexpected to the untypical MK fan. Besides, I don't think the final boss has to be a full on villain to be the final boss but it would create an interesting mechanic.

      @Guldir: I think Nightwolf as a werewolf would be a lot of fun.

      @Bmwfan: I like an arachnid Kytinn. And personally, I would really want to see all your mentioned characters as playable characters in the next one.

      I fully agree his malevolent nature wouldn't be a surprise, Nightwolf would be awesome but would he be better as a revenant or alive, A spider character would be cool to see the dialogue between them and D'vorah and Reptile

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    • No Sektor? No Tekunin? The only cyborg left is Triborg. He won't make a difference.

      Any new powers you'd like to see in new fighters?

      - Like spikes - quills from a porcupine?

      - Someone who can shrink & grow like Ant-Man, Wasp & Atom?

      - Perhaps something Egyptian into the mix?

      - A barbarian or viking to join MK?

      - An angel with light powers? Someone who serves the Elder gods as his kind?

      - Any yokai to join MK since oni & an enenra like Smoke?

      And for the other revenants, what variations would you give them?

      - Smoke: Enenra

      - Nightwolf: Lycanthropy

      - Kabal?

      - Stryker?

      - Sindel?

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    • Bmwfan2015 wrote:
      No Sektor? No Tekunin? The only cyborg left is Triborg. He won't make a difference.

      Any new powers you'd like to see in new fighters?

      - Like spikes - quills from a porcupine?

      - Someone who can shrink & grow like Ant-Man, Wasp & Atom?

      - Perhaps something Egyptian into the mix?

      - A barbarian or viking to join MK?

      - An angel with light powers? Someone who serves the Elder gods as his kind?

      - Any yokai to join MK since oni & an enenra like Smoke?

      And for the other revenants, what variations would you give them?

      - Smoke: Enenra

      - Nightwolf: Lycanthropy

      - Kabal?

      - Stryker?

      - Sindel?

      Sindel should have a fighting variation and a variation that focuses on her voice such as an "Ability silencer" ability, I haven't thought of a third unless her hair should a have one

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    • I really like the idea of Cyrax and Sektor coming back as human revenants but Tri-Borg still being the one that has the cyborg versions.

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    • Dragonspyne wrote:
      I really like the idea of Cyrax and Sektor coming back as human revenants but Tri-Borg still being the one that has the cyborg versions.

      I'd love to see an add-on that turns every into a cyber variation of themselves, an insight into what would happen if the cyber lin kuei succeeded in world domination

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    • That would be fun. In fact, I've even thought of different people in different situations. Cyborgs, revenants, even gender swaps.

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    • Dragonspyne wrote:
      That would be fun. In fact, I've even thought of different people in different situations. Cyborgs, revenants, even gender swaps.

      I would literally start a petition to see gender-swapped characters

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    • How about new Seidan & Chaosrealm warriors?

      What other beings can appear? Those that reside in Outworld like Reptile, Kotal, D'Vorah & Ferra/Torr.

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    • There is no need for any more 3D-era MK characters besides Kenshi, Frost, Li Mei, and Bo' Rai Cho, who many feel are the most important and memorable of that bunch. And personally, I'm tired of this nostalgia for the 3D Mortal Kombat games. They were not that good, yet this is what continues to dominate so many discussions:

      "What if Shujinko and Onaga return? What if the Deadly Alliance forms again? Any ideas for an Armageddon 2.0?" Like come on, man. That 3D shit is whack. We already have a reboot and it's sequel that brought the franchise back to it's 2D glory, with another possibly along the way. And this is what people pine for.

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    • We can't lingle in the past.

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    • Shinnok was 3D era too and we still had him back. Onaga's the only one that really needs some form of return, being the major hitter he was. He's a pretty big part of the lore, with or without Shujinko. Plenty you can do with him for a new story, whether in the next game or a continuation of the comics, or both.

      Armageddon 2.0 or another Deadly Alliance, I'm definitely against, esepcially another Armageddon. Don't care if it has a different outcome, I'd rather just not have it again, being what the original was and represented.

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    • A second battle of Armageddon might be innevitable since Raiden only prevented one outcome.

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    • @Ridley Prime -- Shinnok was indirectly mentioned in Noob Saibot's UMK3/Trilogy bio, but introduced in Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero (a 2D adventure game) and returned as the final boss of Mortal Kombat 4, which can be hardly considered a 3D fighting game. Apart from the limited side-stepping and 3D-rendered characters and environments, combat was limited to a 2D plane. Mortal Kombat 4 was at best a transitional phase in the Mortal Kombat franchise.

      And the 3D era of Mortal Kombat came with the release of Deadly Alliance in 2002 and culminated with Armageddon in 2006, although MK vs. DC Universe was technically the last game to feature full 3D gameplay until Mortal Kombat was rebooted in 2011 and returned to the 2D combat formula.

      I just don't want to see any bootleg characters like Hsu Hao, Kobra, or Dairou who play no important role in Mortal Kombat but to stink up the character roster. But if Onaga does return I agree that it should be under a different set of circumstances.

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    • @Godzillavkk -- Armageddon was caused as a result of the characters throughout the realms growing too powerful and numerous.

      I believe it was averted not only with the deaths of Shao Kahn, Shang Tsung, Motaro, and most of the main heros in Mortal Kombat (2011). But some of the characters in the Mortal Kombat X comic like Kintaro, Sektor, Cyrax, Reiko, Mavado, Hsu Hao, Drahmin, Moloch, and Havik.

      And Baraka, Mileena, and Quan Chi were all killed during the events of Mortal Kombat X.

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    • Death is cheap in MK.

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    • RichFromStaten wrote:
      @Ridley Prime -- Shinnok was indirectly mentioned in Noob Saibot's UMK3/Trilogy bio, but introduced in Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero (a 2D adventure game) and returned as the final boss of Mortal Kombat 4, which can be hardly considered a 3D fighting game. Apart from the limited side-stepping and 3D-rendered characters and environments, combat was limited to a 2D plane. Mortal Kombat 4 was at best a transitional phase in the Mortal Kombat franchise.

      And the 3D era of Mortal Kombat came with the release of Deadly Alliance in 2002 and culminated with Armageddon in 2006, although MK vs. DC Universe was technically the last game to feature full 3D gameplay until Mortal Kombat was rebooted in 2011 and returned to the 2D combat formula.

      I just don't want to see any bootleg characters like Hsu Hao, Kobra, or Dairou who play no important role in Mortal Kombat but to stink up the character roster. But if Onaga does return I agree that it should be under a different set of circumstances.

      I know about Mythologies and such, I grew up playing it. People don't always count the adventure spinoffs though, so I don't always bring them up. Quan Chi technically debuted in a crappy cartoon, but people don't like to bring it up and generally just point to Mythologies as to his beginnings. I liked the game for what it was, but could see why it wasn't popular. Not that it matters now, since not even the well received Shaolin Monks game could be bothered to get a sequel to this day.

      Shinnok was memorable in Mythologies, but underwhelming in MK4. Glad MKX reused his demon form, even if it wasn't well executed. MK4 for the most part though has been considered the beginning of the 3D era; it was not only the start of when the series began having obscure one-offs (Kai, Jarek, and such), but the start of when everyone could pull weapons out their asses as well. Still, I see where you're coming from. It can be pretty much considered a transitional phase too.

      Also, Fujin and Sareena are honestly more salvageable than Li Mei or Frost, out of the others you mentioned. Like Shinnok, they also debuted in Mythologies; you have Fujin on the backburner as a substitute god or protector of earthrealm whose just waiting to be used properly for a story (especially with Raiden losing his marbles again), and Sareena has the whole demon of the netherrealm turned good thing. It's more interesting than Li Mei or Frost's stories at least, but meh.

      Some of the current new characters aren't that well written or have much a role in the story either. Ferra/Torr and some of the kombat kiddies come to mind... Erron Black has potential though, as does Tremor if they bring him back. The kombat kids just aren't that interesting for the most part. Hell, bring back Skarlet even. I know she reappeared in the comics, but there's still more they could do with her... And then Onaga as mentioned, who might act differently with Kotal Kahn as the emperor now.

      We seem to be in agreement, basically. I don't want anymore Hsu Hao's or Drahmin's either. I also don't like how the 3D era tends to always dominate discussions, even if I still feel there's a bit that could be salvaged from it, which isn't that much.

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    • The 3D's just need more work put into them. At least that's what I'd do if I was putting them into another MK game. Besides, Havik was in the comics, so I would not be surprised if Hotaru, Dairou and Darrius followed en suite. Also, fun fact, MK Mythologies Sub-Zero is referrenced in 9 and X, so it's technically canon.

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    • Can we talk about new characters please? Offsprings? Relatives? Those from other realms? Powers we haven't seen yet?

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    • I'm definitely not in favor of any more offspring/relative characters. Cassie is a GOD-AWFUL character who represents the half-retarded millenials (yes, I get that they're the kids buying the games currently). She is just Johnny and Sonya smashed into a single character. Her being the primary protagonist in MKX was complete shit and not even close to being believable. Jacqui is perhaps even worse. She is the female version of Jax, right down to her cute little gauntlets to mimic daddy's moves. She is shit. Kung Jin isn't terrible, but they clearly cashed in on the LGBT community with him and that's really his only reason for existing. He also mimics Nightwolf. Takeda is easily the best of the teen twats, having a mostly unique playstyle, yet still borrowing traits from daddy and Hanzo (makes sense storywise, I know).

      With that being said, I've been hearing people talking about Kano having a playable son in the next game. No... Just no. If he is completely different from his father and plays nothing like him or anyone else, then sure. But the liklihood of that being the case is slim to none and if we're gonna have a copycat Kano, we might as well have Jarek instead and flesh his character out more. And Liu Kang and Kitana having a kid. Sigh... What, is he/she gonna have flaming fans that they utilize? That's ridiculous.

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    • DLKMK1989 wrote:
      I'm definitely not in favor of any more offspring/relative characters. Cassie is a GOD-AWFUL character who represents the half-retarded millenials (yes, I get that they're the kids buying the games currently). She is just Johnny and Sonya smashed into a single character. Her being the primary protagonist in MKX was complete shit and not even close to being believable. Jacqui is perhaps even worse. She is the female version of Jax, right down to her cute little gauntlets to mimic daddy's moves. She is shit. Kung Jin isn't terrible, but they clearly cashed in on the LGBT community with him and that's really his only reason for existing. He also mimics Nightwolf. Takeda is easily the best of the teen twats, having a mostly unique playstyle, yet still borrowing traits from daddy and Hanzo (makes sense storywise, I know).

      With that being said, I've been hearing people talking about Kano having a playable son in the next game. No... Just no. If he is completely different from his father and plays nothing like him or anyone else, then sure. But the liklihood of that being the case is slim to none and if we're gonna have a copycat Kano, we might as well have Jarek instead and flesh his character out more. And Liu Kang and Kitana having a kid. Sigh... What, is he/she gonna have flaming fans that they utilize? That's ridiculous.

      PREACH, I hate how everyone's pushing the children of characters with making them seem unique


      I'd love to see Dreamrealmers in order what Tremor met there

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    • DLKMK1989 wrote:
      I'm definitely not in favor of any more offspring/relative characters. Cassie is a GOD-AWFUL character who represents the half-retarded millenials (yes, I get that they're the kids buying the games currently). She is just Johnny and Sonya smashed into a single character. Her being the primary protagonist in MKX was complete shit and not even close to being believable. Jacqui is perhaps even worse. She is the female version of Jax, right down to her cute little gauntlets to mimic daddy's moves. She is shit. Kung Jin isn't terrible, but they clearly cashed in on the LGBT community with him and that's really his only reason for existing. He also mimics Nightwolf. Takeda is easily the best of the teen twats, having a mostly unique playstyle, yet still borrowing traits from daddy and Hanzo (makes sense storywise, I know).

      With that being said, I've been hearing people talking about Kano having a playable son in the next game. No... Just no. If he is completely different from his father and plays nothing like him or anyone else, then sure. But the liklihood of that being the case is slim to none and if we're gonna have a copycat Kano, we might as well have Jarek instead and flesh his character out more. And Liu Kang and Kitana having a kid. Sigh... What, is he/she gonna have flaming fans that they utilize? That's ridiculous.


      Hey, I happen to be a millenial. You can't expect Mortal Kombat to stay the same forever you know. Otherwise it'll be stuck in a neverending status quo, never changing, never growing, never evolving.

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      I'm definitely not in favor of any more offspring/relative characters. Cassie is a GOD-AWFUL character who represents the half-retarded millenials (yes, I get that they're the kids buying the games currently). She is just Johnny and Sonya smashed into a single character. Her being the primary protagonist in MKX was complete shit and not even close to being believable. Jacqui is perhaps even worse. She is the female version of Jax, right down to her cute little gauntlets to mimic daddy's moves. She is shit. Kung Jin isn't terrible, but they clearly cashed in on the LGBT community with him and that's really his only reason for existing. He also mimics Nightwolf. Takeda is easily the best of the teen twats, having a mostly unique playstyle, yet still borrowing traits from daddy and Hanzo (makes sense storywise, I know).

      With that being said, I've been hearing people talking about Kano having a playable son in the next game. No... Just no. If he is completely different from his father and plays nothing like him or anyone else, then sure. But the liklihood of that being the case is slim to none and if we're gonna have a copycat Kano, we might as well have Jarek instead and flesh his character out more. And Liu Kang and Kitana having a kid. Sigh... What, is he/she gonna have flaming fans that they utilize? That's ridiculous.

      WOW that was the most hate filled response i have ever seen here. I guess you just hate children.

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    • DLK is correct, the new characters are personality-deprived young replacements for characters far better than they could ever hope to be. the only ones that are even remotely interesting are the villains, and they're wasted any time they appear so that kinda goes out the window.

      not to mention, Cassie Cage is as bland of a mary sue archetype as you can get.

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    • godzilla, youre not special for being a millennial. a millennial is someone born between the early 1980s and the early 2000s. almost every single person who goes to this website is a millennial. i would bet on my life that the guy who said that is one himself. hes criticizing the generational stereotypes as a whole and complaining how mkx's new characters pander to those stereotypes (in his opinion), not every single individual member belonging to said generation. youre right about mk needing to evolve, just dont get triggered when someone insults your generation. dummy.

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    • Fireworks888 wrote:
      godzilla, youre not special for being a millennial. a millennial is someone born between the early 1980s and the early 2000s. almost every single person who goes to this website is a millennial. i would bet on my life that the guy who said that is one himself. hes criticizing the generational stereotypes as a whole and complaining how mkx's new characters pander to those stereotypes (in his opinion), not every single individual member belonging to said generation. youre right about mk needing to evolve, just dont get triggered when someone insults your generation. dummy.

      MKX wasn´t all that bad for MK standarts, the new Characters are likable and aren´t all that bad compared to the 3D era characters like Hsu hao, Mokap and Shujinko. His entire comment here was very over sensitive and unnessesarly hate-filled for mostly unjustified reasons.

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    • As I said, no game stays the same forever. And I find it funny that you think it's not ok for a young lady to be able to defeat Shinnok, but you pronbably think it's ok for pre-puberty kids to take on a whore mongering fire nation. BS in my book. THAT's a Mary Sue in my book. Cassie has at least 5 years of training.

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    • Godzillavkk wrote: As I said, no game stays the same forever. And I find it funny that you think it's not ok for a young lady to be able to defeat Shinnok, but you pronbably think it's ok for pre-puberty kids to take on a whore mongering fire nation. BS in my book. THAT's a Mary Sue in my book. Cassie has at least 5 years of training.

      what a stupid and odd reply

      I guess it's not at all unearned that she gets a random powerup and kills Shinnok in one-hit. seems like a totally well-written way to end a fight!

      not only that, she beats the majority of people she faces in the story with relative ease for someone with little experience fighting such varied characters.

      your "no game stays the same forever" is as dumb as it is obvious. no one is disappointed that there's new characters period, they're disappointed that they're pretty shit on average.

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    • Lord of Paradise wrote:

      Fireworks888 wrote:
      godzilla, youre not special for being a millennial. a millennial is someone born between the early 1980s and the early 2000s. almost every single person who goes to this website is a millennial. i would bet on my life that the guy who said that is one himself. hes criticizing the generational stereotypes as a whole and complaining how mkx's new characters pander to those stereotypes (in his opinion), not every single individual member belonging to said generation. youre right about mk needing to evolve, just dont get triggered when someone insults your generation. dummy.

      MKX wasn´t all that bad for MK standarts, the new Characters are likable and aren´t all that bad compared to the 3D era characters like Hsu hao, Mokap and Shujinko. His entire comment here was very over sensitive and unnessesarly hate-filled for mostly unjustified reasons.

      "hate-filled" and "unjustified" because you disagree with it lol.

      if you're not fond of having your opinion challenged then perhaps forums aren't for you.

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    • Can we get back to focus please before things get out of hand?

      New characters in mind?

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    • Bmwfan2015 wrote: Can we get back to focus please before things get out of hand?

      New characters in mind?

      a werewolf

      or a wolfman

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    • Lord of Paradise wrote:
      Fireworks888 wrote:
      godzilla, youre not special for being a millennial. a millennial is someone born between the early 1980s and the early 2000s. almost every single person who goes to this website is a millennial. i would bet on my life that the guy who said that is one himself. hes criticizing the generational stereotypes as a whole and complaining how mkx's new characters pander to those stereotypes (in his opinion), not every single individual member belonging to said generation. youre right about mk needing to evolve, just dont get triggered when someone insults your generation. dummy.
      MKX wasn´t all that bad for MK standarts, the new Characters are likable and aren´t all that bad compared to the 3D era characters like Hsu hao, Mokap and Shujinko. His entire comment here was very over sensitive and unnessesarly hate-filled for mostly unjustified reasons.

      can you explain to me how exactly his short rant was oversensitive and unnecessarily hate-filled. butthead.

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    • Fireworks888 wrote:
      Lord of Paradise wrote:
      Fireworks888 wrote:
      godzilla, youre not special for being a millennial. a millennial is someone born between the early 1980s and the early 2000s. almost every single person who goes to this website is a millennial. i would bet on my life that the guy who said that is one himself. hes criticizing the generational stereotypes as a whole and complaining how mkx's new characters pander to those stereotypes (in his opinion), not every single individual member belonging to said generation. youre right about mk needing to evolve, just dont get triggered when someone insults your generation. dummy.
      MKX wasn´t all that bad for MK standarts, the new Characters are likable and aren´t all that bad compared to the 3D era characters like Hsu hao, Mokap and Shujinko. His entire comment here was very over sensitive and unnessesarly hate-filled for mostly unjustified reasons.
      can you explain to me how exactly his short rant was oversensitive and unnecessarily hate-filled. butthead.

      Welcome to the world of fandom.

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    • Godzillavkk wrote:
      Fireworks888 wrote:
      Lord of Paradise wrote:
      Fireworks888 wrote:
      godzilla, youre not special for being a millennial. a millennial is someone born between the early 1980s and the early 2000s. almost every single person who goes to this website is a millennial. i would bet on my life that the guy who said that is one himself. hes criticizing the generational stereotypes as a whole and complaining how mkx's new characters pander to those stereotypes (in his opinion), not every single individual member belonging to said generation. youre right about mk needing to evolve, just dont get triggered when someone insults your generation. dummy.
      MKX wasn´t all that bad for MK standarts, the new Characters are likable and aren´t all that bad compared to the 3D era characters like Hsu hao, Mokap and Shujinko. His entire comment here was very over sensitive and unnessesarly hate-filled for mostly unjustified reasons.
      can you explain to me how exactly his short rant was oversensitive and unnecessarily hate-filled. butthead.
      Welcome to the world of fandom.

      more liek welcome to the world of dumbasses you fucking autist typical tard cant fucking give a good reason so he simply says the most simple shit his puny mind can create

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    • Lord of Paradise wrote:
      Fireworks888 wrote:
      godzilla, youre not special for being a millennial. a millennial is someone born between the early 1980s and the early 2000s. almost every single person who goes to this website is a millennial. i would bet on my life that the guy who said that is one himself. hes criticizing the generational stereotypes as a whole and complaining how mkx's new characters pander to those stereotypes (in his opinion), not every single individual member belonging to said generation. youre right about mk needing to evolve, just dont get triggered when someone insults your generation. dummy.
      MKX wasn´t all that bad for MK standarts, the new Characters are likable and aren´t all that bad compared to the 3D era characters like Hsu hao, Mokap and Shujinko. His entire comment here was very over sensitive and unnessesarly hate-filled for mostly unjustified reasons.

      The current Outworlders, minus Kotal and D'Vorah, have about the same amount of developement as the average 3D era character.

      And yeah, the kombat kids are pretty much millennial stereotypes. He isn't wrong there.

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    • Big Dick Zaddy wrote:
      Godzillavkk wrote:
      Fireworks888 wrote:
      Lord of Paradise wrote:
      Fireworks888 wrote:
      godzilla, youre not special for being a millennial. a millennial is someone born between the early 1980s and the early 2000s. almost every single person who goes to this website is a millennial. i would bet on my life that the guy who said that is one himself. hes criticizing the generational stereotypes as a whole and complaining how mkx's new characters pander to those stereotypes (in his opinion), not every single individual member belonging to said generation. youre right about mk needing to evolve, just dont get triggered when someone insults your generation. dummy.
      MKX wasn´t all that bad for MK standarts, the new Characters are likable and aren´t all that bad compared to the 3D era characters like Hsu hao, Mokap and Shujinko. His entire comment here was very over sensitive and unnessesarly hate-filled for mostly unjustified reasons.
      can you explain to me how exactly his short rant was oversensitive and unnecessarily hate-filled. butthead.
      Welcome to the world of fandom.
      more liek welcome to the world of dumbasses you fucking autist typical tard cant fucking give a good reason so he simply says the most simple shit his puny mind can create

      Now your resorting to childish name calling. That's incredibly "smart".

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    • Godzillavkk wrote:
      Big Dick Zaddy wrote:
      Godzillavkk wrote:
      Fireworks888 wrote:
      Lord of Paradise wrote:
      Fireworks888 wrote:
      godzilla, youre not special for being a millennial. a millennial is someone born between the early 1980s and the early 2000s. almost every single person who goes to this website is a millennial. i would bet on my life that the guy who said that is one himself. hes criticizing the generational stereotypes as a whole and complaining how mkx's new characters pander to those stereotypes (in his opinion), not every single individual member belonging to said generation. youre right about mk needing to evolve, just dont get triggered when someone insults your generation. dummy.
      MKX wasn´t all that bad for MK standarts, the new Characters are likable and aren´t all that bad compared to the 3D era characters like Hsu hao, Mokap and Shujinko. His entire comment here was very over sensitive and unnessesarly hate-filled for mostly unjustified reasons.
      can you explain to me how exactly his short rant was oversensitive and unnecessarily hate-filled. butthead.
      Welcome to the world of fandom.
      more liek welcome to the world of dumbasses you fucking autist typical tard cant fucking give a good reason so he simply says the most simple shit his puny mind can create
      Now your resorting to childish name calling. That's incredibly "smart".

      waaaaaaaaahhhh I'm too much of an autist to respond to being called out so I'm gonna call them a child you're a fucking moron you really are, how about you get some hair on your balls or were they severed in that botched surgery when you were born?

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    • Godzillavkk wrote:
      Big Dick Zaddy wrote:
      Godzillavkk wrote:
      Fireworks888 wrote:
      Lord of Paradise wrote:
      Fireworks888 wrote:
      godzilla, youre not special for being a millennial. a millennial is someone born between the early 1980s and the early 2000s. almost every single person who goes to this website is a millennial. i would bet on my life that the guy who said that is one himself. hes criticizing the generational stereotypes as a whole and complaining how mkx's new characters pander to those stereotypes (in his opinion), not every single individual member belonging to said generation. youre right about mk needing to evolve, just dont get triggered when someone insults your generation. dummy.
      MKX wasn´t all that bad for MK standarts, the new Characters are likable and aren´t all that bad compared to the 3D era characters like Hsu hao, Mokap and Shujinko. His entire comment here was very over sensitive and unnessesarly hate-filled for mostly unjustified reasons.
      can you explain to me how exactly his short rant was oversensitive and unnecessarily hate-filled. butthead.
      Welcome to the world of fandom.
      more liek welcome to the world of dumbasses you fucking autist typical tard cant fucking give a good reason so he simply says the most simple shit his puny mind can create
      Now your resorting to childish name calling. That's incredibly "smart".

      oh by the way, it's kinda obvious you failed basic fucking English, it's "you're" you fucking illiterate dumbass

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    • You keep on bullying, you'll get banned.

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    • Godzillavkk wrote:
      You keep on bullying, you'll get banned.

      lol

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    • Well, this isn't what I was expecting when I woke up this evening.

      All I'll say is that my points ARE justified and more factual than they are fictional. No, I can't PROVE that they are undeniable fact, because they are based on opinion, but just judging by real world standards and applying them to the things I pointed out, it'd be illogical and irrational to believe otherwise.

      Sorry to anyone who doesn't agree. You'll get over it, though. Thanks to Daryl for making my counter points for me against those who don't accept my "beliefs" haha.

      Annnddd... Moving on.

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    • "Sorry to anyone who doesn't agree. You'll get over it, though."

      beast

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    • Big Dick Zaddy wrote:
      Godzillavkk wrote:
      Big Dick Zaddy wrote:
      Godzillavkk wrote:
      Fireworks888 wrote:
      Lord of Paradise wrote:
      Fireworks888 wrote:
      godzilla, youre not special for being a millennial. a millennial is someone born between the early 1980s and the early 2000s. almost every single person who goes to this website is a millennial. i would bet on my life that the guy who said that is one himself. hes criticizing the generational stereotypes as a whole and complaining how mkx's new characters pander to those stereotypes (in his opinion), not every single individual member belonging to said generation. youre right about mk needing to evolve, just dont get triggered when someone insults your generation. dummy.
      MKX wasn´t all that bad for MK standarts, the new Characters are likable and aren´t all that bad compared to the 3D era characters like Hsu hao, Mokap and Shujinko. His entire comment here was very over sensitive and unnessesarly hate-filled for mostly unjustified reasons.
      can you explain to me how exactly his short rant was oversensitive and unnecessarily hate-filled. butthead.
      Welcome to the world of fandom.
      more liek welcome to the world of dumbasses you fucking autist typical tard cant fucking give a good reason so he simply says the most simple shit his puny mind can create
      Now your resorting to childish name calling. That's incredibly "smart".
      oh by the way, it's kinda obvious you failed basic fucking English, it's "you're" you fucking illiterate dumbass

      Strong words for the  arrogant self-absorbed child, for starters you have no clue what the first language of anyone on here so questioning their skill in English is just pathetic and secondly, if you don't agree with anything said here then leave instead of sitting around to keep the fire of this childish dispute going.

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    • DLKMK1989 wrote:
      Well, this isn't what I was expecting when I woke up this evening.

      All I'll say is that my points ARE justified and more factual than they are fictional. No, I can't PROVE that they are undeniable fact, because they are based on opinion, but just judging by real world standards and applying them to the things I pointed out, it'd be illogical and irrational to believe otherwise.

      Sorry to anyone who doesn't agree. You'll get over it, though. Thanks to Daryl for making my counter points for me against those who don't accept my "beliefs" haha.

      Annnddd... Moving on.

      We should move on speaking of which, we should have Orderrealmers and Drearealmers in the next game

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    • Will we ever expect Kuai Liang & Sareena to have a child of their own? And perhaps the next to take on the title of Sub-Zero?

      What'll happen to Scorpion? Will he continue to live on?

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    • I think Darrius and Hotaru will return for the next game. Besides it would continue the Orderrealm Civil War.

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    • Alright, so in my opinion, all of the characters introduced (and playable; Meat is ridiculous) in MK4 are salvageable. We've already had Quan Chi, Shinnok, and Tanya playable in the new timeline of games. I think it's pretty obvious Quan Chi and Shinnok are gonna sit this next one out, but Tanya has that role of undeniable traitor bitch and is a solid heel, honestly. She should return, fully playable.

      Then we have Fujin, Jarek, Kai, and Reiko. Alright, so Fujin not being playable in MKX was bullshit. I think he could be such an awesome character story wise, if they built upon it, and gameplay wise, given his complete control of wind. Jarek gets a lot of hate from most fans, but as with most of the 3D era characters, I believe this is simply due to the poor development with the guy. He's a copy of Kano in MK4, but with a very unique weapon. I'd like to see this weapon of his return, along with his lasso-type move he has in Armageddon, which is completely unique to him in MK. Kai, also a sufferer of poor development, with virtually zero background, could be another awesome, unique character. He did several different moves out of a handstand style in MK4 that I loved. They abandoned the idea in Armageddon and he was a true jobber, but I'd like to see a revival, much more story, and the return of that fighting style.

      As for Reiko, he just might be my favorite character that there is practically no lore for. All we really got before the MKX comics was his MK4 ending where he sits on Kahn's throne and puts on his helmet. Now obviously this wasn't a canon ending, however, they didn't really seem to work with that idea much beyond that. He's an Outworlder like Kahn, which is a fairly rare species in regards to playable characters. That ending just grabbed me the first time I saw it and it still does today. So simple, yet mysterious. I need to know Reiko's true intentions as to why he "sneaks into Shao Kahn's throne room, puts on his helmet, and pretends to be emperor." I want there to be more of a backstory for Reiko, not only regarding his aspirations for the throne, but an angle of hatred towards Shao Kahn for some reason or another.

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    • DLKMK1989 wrote:
      Alright, so in my opinion, all of the characters introduced (and playable; Meat is ridiculous) in MK4 are salvageable. We've already had Quan Chi, Shinnok, and Tanya playable in the new timeline of games. I think it's pretty obvious Quan Chi and Shinnok are gonna sit this next one out, but Tanya has that role of undeniable traitor bitch and is a solid heel, honestly. She should return, fully playable.

      Then we have Fujin, Jarek, Kai, and Reiko. Alright, so Fujin not being playable in MKX was bullshit. I think he could be such an awesome character story wise, if they built upon it, and gameplay wise, given his complete control of wind. Jarek gets a lot of hate from most fans, but as with most of the 3D era characters, I believe this is simply due to the poor development with the guy. He's a copy of Kano in MK4, but with a very unique weapon. I'd like to see this weapon of his return, along with his lasso-type move he has in Armageddon, which is completely unique to him in MK. Kai, also a sufferer of poor development, with virtually zero background, could be another awesome, unique character. He did several different moves out of a handstand style in MK4 that I loved. They abandoned the idea in Armageddon and he was a true jobber, but I'd like to see a revival, much more story, and the return of that fighting style.

      As for Reiko, he just might be my favorite character that there is practically no lore for. All we really got before the MKX comics was his MK4 ending where he sits on Kahn's throne and puts on his helmet. Now obviously this wasn't a canon ending, however, they didn't really seem to work with that idea much beyond that. He's an Outworlder like Kahn, which is a fairly rare species in regards to playable characters. That ending just grabbed me the first time I saw it and it still does today. So simple, yet mysterious. I need to know Reiko's true intentions as to why he "sneaks into Shao Kahn's throne room, puts on his helmet, and pretends to be emperor." I want there to be more of a backstory for Reiko, not only regarding his aspirations for the throne, but an angle of hatred towards Shao Kahn for some reason or another.

      Reiko's gone now, so no point bringing him back. Jarek & Kai might not. Fujin mostly will join hopefully in MK11 roster.

      What would you say about the others? Deadly Alliance first. Mavado, Hsu Hao, Drahmin & Moloch are dead ("erased"). Kenshi joined MK9 roster as DLC & later playable in MKX. Bo'Rai Cho returned DLC.

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    • I first have to ask you what you mean by "gone" exactly, referring to Reiko, or "dead/erased" with Drahmin and Moloch, because death is irrelevant in MK. That's been proven time after time. But anyway...

      Ah yes, Deadly Alliance. The game that had so many new characters, it hardly felt like an MK game. As you mentioned, we've gotten Bo' Rai Cho and Kenshi playable in the new timeline. Bo' is supposed to be a comic relief character, but he's simply not funny. Seems odd that he trained the greatest MK champion of all time... Kenshi is overrated to me, but he's a solid character now that he has a little more story. The Sento concept is really cool and could maybe later even become sentient, which would be awesome. I hated him at first, though, in DA when he was doing Ermac's moves (as you may have guessed by my profile picture, I'm a huge Ermac fan). Kenshi will inevitably return and Bo' might as well step back into the background.

      Moving on to the rest of the cast. Starting with Blaze: I'm not entirely sure they'll choose to go the same route and give him the role that he had in Armageddon or even give him a role at all, but his "mutated" form is rather bland and uninspired and his "human" form is just a dude on fire. He's quite basic overall and I'd prefer him staying a background character altogether.

      Now I know a lot of people hate on Drahmin, but the Face of Kun-Lo mask is very intriguing to me and I'd like to see more lore on it. Perhaps not bringing back Drahmin himself, but rather the original wearer of said mask, Kun-Lo. Not that the mask was the only positive feature of Drahmin's character, as I like the look of the club hand, but again, just poor development.

      Frost is a female Sub-Zero 150% and as I've stated before, I'm really not fond of copycat type characters. Sub-Zero has his own unique thing and while I do want to believe in potential for Frost, I don't see her ever being anything more than a copycat.

      Hsu Hao gets shit on more than any other MK character ever, I think, and while I don't truly understand, he did always seem out of place. More of a Street Fighter character, perhaps. Anyway, the only thing that made him notable was his cybernetic heart implant, which Kano now has, so he's irrelevant.

      Li Mei had her little cameo appearance in MKX and I'm sure that's all she'll ever be going forward. There's nothing notable about her gameplay wise and her story is weak as well..........

          • Disclaimer: I just want to point out, I'm all in favor of EVERY MK character being brought back as long as their story is built upon and actual time is put into them.

      Alright, so Mavado is a cool cat. I see potential in this character for sure and would like to see him return playable. The grappling hooks are semi-unique and I just like his look. He's a big player within the Red Dragon and that will most certainly be a major plot point going forward.

      Mokap is the worst character in the series, hands down. There's not much to be said about him at all. He's a nod to the excellence of Pesina, but if that's what they truly wanted to do with the character, his name should not have been "Mokap" and he absolutely shouldn't have any special abilities.

      Moloch is a grumbling, fumbling, monstrously, bland character. I'm not much of a fan of the giant characters, ie: he, Onaga, and Blaze. As you pointed out, he's been "erased", and though I don't believe that means diddly shit, I do believe that Netherrealm Studios was intentionally flushing characters down the toilet within the MKX comics, so I doubt he'll ever make a return.

      The only known denizen of Vaeternus, Nitara, is most certainly an interesting character and should be expanded upon. Being the only vampire so far in MK, she could be the catalyst for introducing the player to Vaeternus. I hope to see her playable again.

      Lastly, we have Sareena from the TE port. She had her cameo in MKX like Li Mei, but I have a feeling she'll have a more pivotable role going forward. Everyone knows of the romance between she and Bi-Han and I'm predicting a return for Noob in one form or another in the next installment. I'd like to see them both playable and together once again.

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      I first have to ask you what you mean by "gone" exactly, referring to Reiko, or "dead/erased" with Drahmin and Moloch, because death is irrelevant in MK. That's been proven time after time. But anyway...

      Ah yes, Deadly Alliance. The game that had so many new characters, it hardly felt like an MK game. As you mentioned, we've gotten Bo' Rai Cho and Kenshi playable in the new timeline. Bo' is supposed to be a comic relief character, but he's simply not funny. Seems odd that he trained the greatest MK champion of all time... Kenshi is overrated to me, but he's a solid character now that he has a little more story. The Sento concept is really cool and could maybe later even become sentient, which would be awesome. I hated him at first, though, in DA when he was doing Ermac's moves (as you may have guessed by my profile picture, I'm a huge Ermac fan). Kenshi will inevitably return and Bo' might as well step back into the background.

      Moving on to the rest of the cast. Starting with Blaze: I'm not entirely sure they'll choose to go the same route and give him the role that he had in Armageddon or even give him a role at all, but his "mutated" form is rather bland and uninspired and his "human" form is just a dude on fire. He's quite basic overall and I'd prefer him staying a background character altogether.

      Now I know a lot of people hate on Drahmin, but the Face of Kun-Lo mask is very intriguing to me and I'd like to see more lore on it. Perhaps not bringing back Drahmin himself, but rather the original wearer of said mask, Kun-Lo. Not that the mask was the only positive feature of Drahmin's character, as I like the look of the club hand, but again, just poor development.

      Frost is a female Sub-Zero 150% and as I've stated before, I'm really not fond of copycat type characters. Sub-Zero has his own unique thing and while I do want to believe in potential for Frost, I don't see her ever being anything more than a copycat.

      Hsu Hao gets shit on more than any other MK character ever, I think, and while I don't truly understand, he did always seem out of place. More of a Street Fighter character, perhaps. Anyway, the only thing that made him notable was his cybernetic heart implant, which Kano now has, so he's irrelevant.

      Li Mei had her little cameo appearance in MKX and I'm sure that's all she'll ever be going forward. There's nothing notable about her gameplay wise and her story is weak as well..........

          • Disclaimer: I just want to point out, I'm all in favor of EVERY MK character being brought back as long as their story is built upon and actual time is put into them.

      Alright, so Mavado is a cool cat. I see potential in this character for sure and would like to see him return playable. The grappling hooks are semi-unique and I just like his look. He's a big player within the Red Dragon and that will most certainly be a major plot point going forward.

      Mokap is the worst character in the series, hands down. There's not much to be said about him at all. He's a nod to the excellence of Pesina, but if that's what they truly wanted to do with the character, his name should not have been "Mokap" and he absolutely shouldn't have any special abilities.

      Moloch is a grumbling, fumbling, monstrously, bland character. I'm not much of a fan of the giant characters, ie: he, Onaga, and Blaze. As you pointed out, he's been "erased", and though I don't believe that means diddly shit, I do believe that Netherrealm Studios was intentionally flushing characters down the toilet within the MKX comics, so I doubt he'll ever make a return.

      The only known denizen of Vaeternus, Nitara, is most certainly an interesting character and should be expanded upon. Being the only vampire so far in MK, she could be the catalyst for introducing the player to Vaeternus. I hope to see her playable again.

      Lastly, we have Sareena from the TE port. She had her cameo in MKX like Li Mei, but I have a feeling she'll have a more pivotable role going forward. Everyone knows of the romance between she and Bi-Han and I'm predicting a return for Noob in one form or another in the next installment. I'd like to see them both playable and together once again.

      I couldn't agree more I'd love to see Nitara and Skarlet either appear separately or as a dual entity, we should also include Blaze but merge with Scorpion because Blaze's essence was gifted to Scorpion by Raiden for helping him in his battle with the realms, promising Scorpion that the essence would help return what he lost. We should also have Fujin and other gods such as the elementals that like Blaze should merge with their life likes to get a true battle of the gods, even including the Blood God and named Elder Gods.

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      I first have to ask you what you mean by "gone" exactly, referring to Reiko, or "dead/erased" with Drahmin and Moloch, because death is irrelevant in MK. That's been proven time after time. But anyway...

      Ah yes, Deadly Alliance. The game that had so many new characters, it hardly felt like an MK game. As you mentioned, we've gotten Bo' Rai Cho and Kenshi playable in the new timeline. Bo' is supposed to be a comic relief character, but he's simply not funny. Seems odd that he trained the greatest MK champion of all time... Kenshi is overrated to me, but he's a solid character now that he has a little more story. The Sento concept is really cool and could maybe later even become sentient, which would be awesome. I hated him at first, though, in DA when he was doing Ermac's moves (as you may have guessed by my profile picture, I'm a huge Ermac fan). Kenshi will inevitably return and Bo' might as well step back into the background.

      Moving on to the rest of the cast. Starting with Blaze: I'm not entirely sure they'll choose to go the same route and give him the role that he had in Armageddon or even give him a role at all, but his "mutated" form is rather bland and uninspired and his "human" form is just a dude on fire. He's quite basic overall and I'd prefer him staying a background character altogether.

      Now I know a lot of people hate on Drahmin, but the Face of Kun-Lo mask is very intriguing to me and I'd like to see more lore on it. Perhaps not bringing back Drahmin himself, but rather the original wearer of said mask, Kun-Lo. Not that the mask was the only positive feature of Drahmin's character, as I like the look of the club hand, but again, just poor development.

      Frost is a female Sub-Zero 150% and as I've stated before, I'm really not fond of copycat type characters. Sub-Zero has his own unique thing and while I do want to believe in potential for Frost, I don't see her ever being anything more than a copycat.

      Hsu Hao gets shit on more than any other MK character ever, I think, and while I don't truly understand, he did always seem out of place. More of a Street Fighter character, perhaps. Anyway, the only thing that made him notable was his cybernetic heart implant, which Kano now has, so he's irrelevant.

      Li Mei had her little cameo appearance in MKX and I'm sure that's all she'll ever be going forward. There's nothing notable about her gameplay wise and her story is weak as well..........

          • Disclaimer: I just want to point out, I'm all in favor of EVERY MK character being brought back as long as their story is built upon and actual time is put into them.

      Alright, so Mavado is a cool cat. I see potential in this character for sure and would like to see him return playable. The grappling hooks are semi-unique and I just like his look. He's a big player within the Red Dragon and that will most certainly be a major plot point going forward.

      Mokap is the worst character in the series, hands down. There's not much to be said about him at all. He's a nod to the excellence of Pesina, but if that's what they truly wanted to do with the character, his name should not have been "Mokap" and he absolutely shouldn't have any special abilities.

      Moloch is a grumbling, fumbling, monstrously, bland character. I'm not much of a fan of the giant characters, ie: he, Onaga, and Blaze. As you pointed out, he's been "erased", and though I don't believe that means diddly shit, I do believe that Netherrealm Studios was intentionally flushing characters down the toilet within the MKX comics, so I doubt he'll ever make a return.

      The only known denizen of Vaeternus, Nitara, is most certainly an interesting character and should be expanded upon. Being the only vampire so far in MK, she could be the catalyst for introducing the player to Vaeternus. I hope to see her playable again.

      Lastly, we have Sareena from the TE port. She had her cameo in MKX like Li Mei, but I have a feeling she'll have a more pivotable role going forward. Everyone knows of the romance between she and Bi-Han and I'm predicting a return for Noob in one form or another in the next installment. I'd like to see them both playable and together once again.

      Well for erased, I meant dead and not coming back.

      Frost would be better suited as a rival for Takeda as Scorpion vs Sub-Zero 2.0.

      I be happy for Li Mei & Sareena to join the roster somehow in the same level as Kenshi. Sareena should connect with Kuai Liang if Bi-Han doesn't want to return to good. Anyone (besides Frost) can become Sub-Zero. Bi-Han, Kuai Liang, even an offspring from any of the boys she decides to be with.

      If the rumored "Dominic" will show up being Kano's son and member of the Red Dragon, I like to see Hsu Hao & Mavado return as flashbacks in his life. Cameo appearances. Daegon would appear too in his training.

      Drahmin's mask can make an appearance somehow.

      But anyway, what do you think of the Deception & Armageddon cast? If there are some worthy of joining the roster. Kobra is dead and good riddance. Shujinko? Maybe save him for later if we'll get an original story and save the Dragon King till the time comes? Perhaps Ashrah can join. Havik is gone now.

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    • Actually it's not confirmed that Kobra is dead. That interraction was just a joke and was confirmed as non-canon on twitter. I also think we need Havik back because what's Hotaru going to be like without his arch-enemy? I also think "erased" should be officially established in MK before writing out Drahmin and Moloch for good. As for Mavado and Hsu Hao, unless new Red Dragon characters are created, we might need them back. Regardless of popularity they are Daegon's best henchmen. As for everyone else, I'm all for returning to play or cameos.

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    • You make a fair point. As Havik, Hotaru and Darrius definitely need to return.

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    • Most of the characters introduced in the 3D Mortal Kombat games are bland, generic, and underdeveloped. I don't see the point in bringing back cheap one-note characters that nobody cares about. Give us back Rain, Sindel, Kabal, Smoke, and Jade. CLASSIC kombatants.

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    • New characters with powers haven't seen MK use yet?

      Atom's growing & shrinking powers?

      Plant powers?

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    • RichFromStaten wrote:
      Most of the characters introduced in the 3D Mortal Kombat games are bland, generic, and underdeveloped. I don't see the point in bringing back cheap one-note characters that nobody cares about. Give us back Rain, Sindel, Kabal, Smoke, and Jade. CLASSIC kombatants.

      Some of those would be fine, despite being dead (didn't stop Liu Kang, Kung Lao, and Kitana), but unless they do something new or different with Sindel, I definitely don't want her back. She was the worst part about MK9, especially story-wise.

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    • Ridley Prime wrote:
      RichFromStaten wrote:
      Most of the characters introduced in the 3D Mortal Kombat games are bland, generic, and underdeveloped. I don't see the point in bringing back cheap one-note characters that nobody cares about. Give us back Rain, Sindel, Kabal, Smoke, and Jade. CLASSIC kombatants.
      Some of those would be fine, despite being dead (didn't stop Liu Kang, Kung Lao, and Kitana), but unless they do something new or different with Sindel, I definitely don't want her back. She was the worst part about MK9, especially story-wise.

      Maybe a cameo from Sindel would be good, where she reverts back from her undead state, undoes Shao Kahn's spell on her (now that he's dead), and reunites with Kitana. I liked Sindel's character in Deception (story wise), but MK9 turned her into a hero killer.

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    • Godzillavkk wrote:
      Actually it's not confirmed that Kobra is dead. That interraction was just a joke and was confirmed as non-canon on twitter. I also think we need Havik back because what's Hotaru going to be like without his arch-enemy? I also think "erased" should be officially established in MK before writing out Drahmin and Moloch for good. As for Mavado and Hsu Hao, unless new Red Dragon characters are created, we might need them back. Regardless of popularity they are Daegon's best henchmen. As for everyone else, I'm all for returning to play or cameos.

      dance monkeyboy dance

      "confirmed as non-canon" wow wheres the fucking sauce you dipshit, or is that peebrain of yours too stupid to give anything what remotely resembles a link?

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    • Look it up yourself. And I'm warning you again, keep bullying, and you'll be banned before you know it.

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    • stay on topic

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    • oh yeah good response, because i'm gonna waste hours of my life trying to find a potentially non-existant tweet you tardnugget, and you're pretty fucking sensitive or is that because your balls are gone to the point you're saying "wahhh wahh wahhh" bully

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    • RichFromStaten wrote:
      Most of the characters introduced in the 3D Mortal Kombat games are bland, generic, and underdeveloped. I don't see the point in bringing back cheap one-note characters that nobody cares about. Give us back Rain, Sindel, Kabal, Smoke, and Jade. CLASSIC kombatants.

      The only problem I can see with that is that most of them are undead now. Unless you want a roster where a sizable portion is made of zombies, we'll need to find a way to restore them. And with Quan Chi dead, that's going to be a lot harder now.

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    • Bmwfan2015 wrote:

      Well for erased, I meant dead and not coming back.

      Frost would be better suited as a rival for Takeda as Scorpion vs Sub-Zero 2.0.

      I be happy for Li Mei & Sareena to join the roster somehow in the same level as Kenshi. Sareena should connect with Kuai Liang if Bi-Han doesn't want to return to good. Anyone (besides Frost) can become Sub-Zero. Bi-Han, Kuai Liang, even an offspring from any of the boys she decides to be with.

      If the rumored "Dominic" will show up being Kano's son and member of the Red Dragon, I like to see Hsu Hao & Mavado return as flashbacks in his life. Cameo appearances. Daegon would appear too in his training.

      Drahmin's mask can make an appearance somehow.

      But anyway, what do you think of the Deception & Armageddon cast? If there are some worthy of joining the roster. Kobra is dead and good riddance. Shujinko? Maybe save him for later if we'll get an original story and save the Dragon King till the time comes? Perhaps Ashrah can join. Havik is gone now.

      Alright... Sigh. I just spent approximately 30 minutes typing up a reply and when I hit "Reply", the text just disappeared and didn't show up here. So, needless to say, I'm pretty fucking pissed off about that. I'm not gonna type it all again, so if you have specific questions regarding one specific character at a time, I'll respond that way, I guess. FUCK.

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    • Godzillavkk wrote:
      RichFromStaten wrote:
      Most of the characters introduced in the 3D Mortal Kombat games are bland, generic, and underdeveloped. I don't see the point in bringing back cheap one-note characters that nobody cares about. Give us back Rain, Sindel, Kabal, Smoke, and Jade. CLASSIC kombatants.
      The only problem I can see with that is that most of them are undead now. Unless you want a roster where a sizable portion is made of zombies, we'll need to find a way to restore them. And with Quan Chi dead, that's going to be a lot harder now.

      I want a roster that doesn't consist of underdeveloped C-list characters (like Dairou or Hotaru) from an era that nobody cares about anymore and is never going to be revisited in the present Mortal Kombat timeline.

      Give me a zombie Kabal over Hsu Hao or Daegon any day of the week, because nothing beats the original roster from the early 2D trilogy. But I'm open to a character like Frost returning, because she has a relation to an important character (Sub-Zero) and was one of the relatively few fighters I enjoyed playing with in the 3D games.

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    • But we can't keep the 2D roster forever, otherwise the game will be stuck in a neverending status quo.

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    • Godzillavkk wrote:
      But we can't keep the 2D roster forever, otherwise the game will be stuck in a neverending status quo.

      That's why I don't mind a fresh character roster, as long as you keep fan favorites like Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Kitana, and Raiden in the mix. Skarlet from the 2011 reboot was a good addition, for starters. Erron Black and Kotal Kahn from MKX also seem like decent characters.

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    • I actually almost gave MK9 a thumbs down because it went backwords instead of foreward. I barely gave it a thumbs up because it subverted a lot of my expectations in terms of story and put mor eemphasis on it. And with more emphasis on story, comes better potential for the 3d's. I once posted a thread(It's old and unusable now) that asked what would you do if one day, an MK game was released that had NONE of the Pre-X characters save for maybe the exception of Scorpion and Sub-Zero? Would you take a look and at least try to enjoy it, or would the roster be too unfamiler to you?

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    • Godzillavkk wrote:

      I actually almost gave MK9 a thumbs down because it went backwords instead of foreward.

      what a ridiculous statement, the game went forwards in every conceivable regardless of how you feel about it having no new characters. it was the perfect MK game. I don't know why you'd try to undermine the game that singlehandedly revived MK with the best game in the series' history, but whatever.

      I'm almost willing to bet that your intro to MK was the mediocre lineup of 3D games, based on your apparent bias on them.

      Godzillavkk wrote: But we can't keep the 2D roster forever, otherwise the game will be stuck in a neverending status quo.

      based on what exactly? your only basis to this seems to be your own personal opinion rather than any kind of logical conclusion. the original MK characters sell on being iconic alone, not sure why you think that using the same characters (which they have been in literally every main series game, lol) will suddenly make people not like it anymore.

      not to say an MK game with a completely new cast would be impossible but it is incredibly unlikely, and your reasoning for it is silly.

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    • Big Dick Zaddy wrote:
      oh yeah good response, because i'm gonna waste hours of my life trying to find a potentially non-existant tweet you tardnugget, and you're pretty fucking sensitive or is that because your balls are gone to the point you're saying "wahhh wahh wahhh" bully

      Stay on topic or stay off this thread, you're being an arsehole and it's both childish and uncalled for.

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    • Guldir wrote:
      Big Dick Zaddy wrote:
      oh yeah good response, because i'm gonna waste hours of my life trying to find a potentially non-existant tweet you tardnugget, and you're pretty fucking sensitive or is that because your balls are gone to the point you're saying "wahhh wahh wahhh" bully
      Stay on topic or stay off this thread, you're being an arsehole and it's both childish and uncalled for.

      your not my dad or an admin, so your autistic attempts at authority are funny, how about you butt the fuck out of this shit you tardnugget

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    • Dirtbag Daryl wrote:

      Godzillavkk wrote:

      I actually almost gave MK9 a thumbs down because it went backwords instead of foreward.
      what a ridiculous statement, the game went forwards in every conceivable regardless of how you feel about it having no new characters. it was the perfect MK game. I don't know why you'd try to undermine the game that singlehandedly revived MK with the best game in the series' history, but whatever.

      I'm almost willing to bet that your intro to MK was the mediocre lineup of 3D games, based on your apparent bias on them.

      Godzillavkk wrote: But we can't keep the 2D roster forever, otherwise the game will be stuck in a neverending status quo.

      based on what exactly? your only basis to this seems to be your own personal opinion rather than any kind of logical conclusion. the original MK characters sell on being iconic alone, not sure why you think that using the same characters (which they have been in literally every main series game, lol) will suddenly make people not like it anymore.

      not to say an MK game with a completely new cast would be impossible but it is incredibly unlikely, and your reasoning for it is silly.

      Actually my introduction to MK was MK vs DC. I learned of all the other characters shortly afterwords and was fascinated by most of them save for Mokap. Also, don't judge someone based on how they were introduced to a franchise. New fans are brought in everyday. My point about almost giving 9 a thumbs down was that I was hoping for a game that continued the story after Armageddon, not go back to an older part of the story fans should be over. I want to see where the characters will go, what's going to happen to them and what new challenges they will face. I just hope they don't reset everything in the new timeline.

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    • No one's going to agree to the idea of a new MK with almost none or 0% of the old cast. You've used Soul Calibur 5 as an example time and again to justify it, but that game failed miserably and SC is still dead because of it. The same would no doubt happen if they went that far with pushing out & replacing the veterans of MK, or at least MK would start to greatly decline again. The 2D characters sell.

      And yeah, MK9 was revolutionary, a return to form. You're in the far minority for even being close to giving it a thumbs down. And guess what? That game drew in many new fans as well, more than the 3D games ever did based on its success, so more of the newer fans have been introduced to the same iconic characters that the series veterans grew up with.

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    • Godzillavkk wrote:

      Dirtbag Daryl wrote:

      Godzillavkk wrote:

      I actually almost gave MK9 a thumbs down because it went backwords instead of foreward.
      what a ridiculous statement, the game went forwards in every conceivable regardless of how you feel about it having no new characters. it was the perfect MK game. I don't know why you'd try to undermine the game that singlehandedly revived MK with the best game in the series' history, but whatever.

      I'm almost willing to bet that your intro to MK was the mediocre lineup of 3D games, based on your apparent bias on them.

      Godzillavkk wrote: But we can't keep the 2D roster forever, otherwise the game will be stuck in a neverending status quo.

      based on what exactly? your only basis to this seems to be your own personal opinion rather than any kind of logical conclusion. the original MK characters sell on being iconic alone, not sure why you think that using the same characters (which they have been in literally every main series game, lol) will suddenly make people not like it anymore.

      not to say an MK game with a completely new cast would be impossible but it is incredibly unlikely, and your reasoning for it is silly.

      Actually my introduction to MK was MK vs DC. I learned of all the other characters shortly afterwords and was fascinated by most of them save for Mokap. Also, don't judge someone based on how they were introduced to a franchise. New fans are brought in everyday. My point about almost giving 9 a thumbs down was that I was hoping for a game that continued the story after Armageddon, not go back to an older part of the story fans should be over. I want to see where the characters will go, what's going to happen to them and what new challenges they will face. I just hope they don't reset everything in the new timeline.

      again, you seem to be unable to differentiate what fans on-average wanted and what you want. the 3D games were poorly received by fans (and critics from what I remember) with the exception of MK:Deception since it actually tried. regardless of what you hoped or think, MK9 objectively saved the series and made it better than ever before. in one move, it brought the series back, brought interest of fans and critics alike back, refined the gameplay to the best it's ever been and overall took the series in the best direction it could go. if MK9 failed to do what it had set out to do, then you likely never would've gotten the new characters you love so much in the first place.

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    • Ridley Prime wrote:
      No one's going to agree to the idea of a new MK with almost none or 0% of the old cast. You've used Soul Calibur 5 as an example time and again to justify it, but that game failed miserably and SC is still dead because of it. The same would no doubt happen if they went that far with pushing out & replacing the veterans of MK, or at least MK would start to greatly decline again. The 2D characters sell.

      And yeah, MK9 was revolutionary, a return to form. You're in the far minority for even being close to giving it a thumbs down. And guess what? That game drew in many new fans as well, more than the 3D games ever did based on its success, so more of the newer fans have been introduced to the same iconic characters that the series veterans grew up with.


      But even MK still goes into the future after 9. And the future is known for changing things.

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    • Dirtbag Daryl wrote:

      Godzillavkk wrote:

      Dirtbag Daryl wrote:

      Godzillavkk wrote:

      I actually almost gave MK9 a thumbs down because it went backwords instead of foreward.
      what a ridiculous statement, the game went forwards in every conceivable regardless of how you feel about it having no new characters. it was the perfect MK game. I don't know why you'd try to undermine the game that singlehandedly revived MK with the best game in the series' history, but whatever.

      I'm almost willing to bet that your intro to MK was the mediocre lineup of 3D games, based on your apparent bias on them.


      Godzillavkk wrote: But we can't keep the 2D roster forever, otherwise the game will be stuck in a neverending status quo.

      based on what exactly? your only basis to this seems to be your own personal opinion rather than any kind of logical conclusion. the original MK characters sell on being iconic alone, not sure why you think that using the same characters (which they have been in literally every main series game, lol) will suddenly make people not like it anymore.

      not to say an MK game with a completely new cast would be impossible but it is incredibly unlikely, and your reasoning for it is silly.

      Actually my introduction to MK was MK vs DC. I learned of all the other characters shortly afterwords and was fascinated by most of them save for Mokap. Also, don't judge someone based on how they were introduced to a franchise. New fans are brought in everyday. My point about almost giving 9 a thumbs down was that I was hoping for a game that continued the story after Armageddon, not go back to an older part of the story fans should be over. I want to see where the characters will go, what's going to happen to them and what new challenges they will face. I just hope they don't reset everything in the new timeline.
      again, you seem to be unable to differentiate what fans on-average wanted and what you want. the 3D games were poorly received by fans (and critics from what I remember) with the exception of MK:Deception since it actually tried. regardless of what you hoped or think, MK9 objectively saved the series and made it better than ever before. in one move, it brought the series back, brought interest of fans and critics alike back, refined the gameplay to the best it's ever been and overall took the series in the best direction it could go. if MK9 failed to do what it had set out to do, then you likely never would've gotten the new characters you love so much in the first place.

      True, but it still could have done that WITHOUT reseting everything. Which is why I hope they DON'T do this in the current timeline.

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    • I'm starting over this thread is broken again with arguments.

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    • Bmwfan2015 wrote: I'm starting over this thread is broken again with arguments.

      argument is part of discussion

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    • I just hope this doesn't turn into hurling abuse or complaining. But at least there are no being hit on the head lessons! LOL!

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    • Alright, calm down. And yeah, there's no need for a new thread.

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    • Where does it say that Kano's son is a Red Dragon member?

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    • Big Dick Zaddy wrote:
      Guldir wrote:
      Big Dick Zaddy wrote:
      oh yeah good response, because i'm gonna waste hours of my life trying to find a potentially non-existant tweet you tardnugget, and you're pretty fucking sensitive or is that because your balls are gone to the point you're saying "wahhh wahh wahhh" bully
      Stay on topic or stay off this thread, you're being an arsehole and it's both childish and uncalled for.
      your not my dad or an admin, so your autistic attempts at authority are funny, how about you butt the fuck out of this shit you tardnugget

      Is that the big bad reply you could come up with, using name calling. You're failing to prove any point you want to make bye reusing the same dribble of calling people autistic or tardnugget so in fact, your replies are pathetic beyond humour to the point that calling it funny would be tragic.

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    • you can stop paying attention to the troll now, he's banned

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    • Dirtbag Daryl wrote:
      you can stop paying attention to the troll now, he's banned

      Thank you, he was ruining this thread but isn't that what he would have wanted

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    • @Godzillavkk -- After seven games Mortal Kombat was long overdue for a reboot. LONG OVERDUE. The story was starved of ideas, fan favorites were overshadowed with generic characters that added nothing to the mythos, and the 3D gimmick went stale with fans, critics, and the creators themselves desiring a return to the 2D combat. To keep going would have killed this franchise.

      So retelling the events at the earliest point in Mortal Kombat history was necessary to reestablish familiar ground with veterans of the classic games, while paving the way for a new story to keep the franchise fresh for newcoming fans. Mortal Kombat got the revival it needed back in 2011. And in keeping with the topic of this discussion I vote for a fresher roster.

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    • RichFromStaten wrote:
      @Godzillavkk -- After seven games Mortal Kombat was long overdue for a reboot. LONG OVERDUE. The story was starved of ideas, fan favorites were overshadowed with generic characters that added nothing to the mythos, and the 3D gimmick went stale with fans, critics, and the creators themselves desiring a return to the 2D combat. To keep going would have killed this franchise.

      So retelling the events at the earliest point in Mortal Kombat history was necessary to reestablish familiar ground with veterans of the classic games, while paving the way for a new story to keep the franchise fresh for newcoming fans. Mortal Kombat got the revival it needed back in 2011. And in keeping with the topic of this discussion I vote for a fresher roster.

      Fresher how, like just adding random new character that, as you said, add to the lore or introduce new but existant characters that we haven't seen yet but if you thought about it you could see they were there all along such as how Aquaman in the Justice League movie new superman back in Man of Steel making you wonder if he saved him after going into the watewr after the burning rig

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    • Guldir wrote:
      RichFromStaten wrote:
      @Godzillavkk -- After seven games Mortal Kombat was long overdue for a reboot. LONG OVERDUE. The story was starved of ideas, fan favorites were overshadowed with generic characters that added nothing to the mythos, and the 3D gimmick went stale with fans, critics, and the creators themselves desiring a return to the 2D combat. To keep going would have killed this franchise.

      So retelling the events at the earliest point in Mortal Kombat history was necessary to reestablish familiar ground with veterans of the classic games, while paving the way for a new story to keep the franchise fresh for newcoming fans. Mortal Kombat got the revival it needed back in 2011. And in keeping with the topic of this discussion I vote for a fresher roster.

      Fresher how, like just adding random new character that, as you said, add to the lore or introduce new but existant characters that we haven't seen yet but if you thought about it you could see they were there all along such as how Aquaman in the Justice League movie new superman back in Man of Steel making you wonder if he saved him after going into the watewr after the burning rig

      By a fresher character roster I mean kombatants who are well-developed and integrated into the plot of a game. Not background characters nobody barely uses and who only serve to take up slots on the character select screen.

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    • Though to be fair a lot of the 3D's got more development in the comic. Which made their deaths seem more wasted.

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    • But if new characters is what you're looking for, aside from Celtic themed characters, I thought of a new idea for an evil joke character. He'd be a hot dog salesman/child catcher themed villain who kidnaps children and turns them into hot dogs.

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    • Godzillavkk wrote:
      Though to be fair a lot of the 3D's got more development in the comic. Which made their deaths seem more wasted.

      Most of the 3D characters were killed off in the comics because there is no need for them in the newer games. They suck.

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    • Dead or alive, Shujinko needs some kind of closure at least, as it wasn't clear what became of him after the Havik/blood god possession thing. A game cameo or future comic can answer this.

      Reiko and Havik were relatively popular. Reiko I definitely would've preferred in MKX over Tanya out of the MK4 cast, even as DLC, but they're dead and over with now, so...

      Nitara I mainly see being comic material assuming the comic series continues prior to MK11. Same with Hotaru given what happened with Havik.

      Wish Frost had already died in the comics. Maybe she could be a rival to Takeda as mentioned, but I can't stand her character, and is far less developed.

      Besides Onaga who has potential as the next big bad, other remaining 3D characters may as well be killed off at some point or not return in any form. They're already largely forgotten.

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    • All these guys need are more deveopment and voila. You make your bed, you sleep in it.

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    • Just as my opinion, I think all the characters that so happen to be "horrible" should get some kind of revamp in this next game. If not for the "old character" feel then for an attempt to justify the creation of the characters. The characters were created and introduced for a reason. They were liked once before and creating new characters doesn't justify reconning old ones. Also, as a thought, I realize that both Mokap and Meat are both joke characters but I think they should go with a different character. I've said it once before that Mokap should just be a skin for Johnny Cage because he's just about as close to what that character is as anything. Both are suppposed to be a part of the entertainment industry. Why couldn't Mokap just be Johnny Cage in a motion capture suit? Also, and just throwing this out there, why couldn't Meat be a skin for someone like either Havok or Reiko or even introduce Forest Fox as a playable character and have him have the "Meat" skin?

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    • Dragonspyne wrote:
      Just as my opinion, I think all the characters that so happen to be "horrible" should get some kind of revamp in this next game. If not for the "old character" feel then for an attempt to justify the creation of the characters. The characters were created and introduced for a reason. They were liked once before and creating new characters doesn't justify reconning old ones. Also, as a thought, I realize that both Mokap and Meat are both joke characters but I think they should go with a different character. I've said it once before that Mokap should just be a skin for Johnny Cage because he's just about as close to what that character is as anything. Both are suppposed to be a part of the entertainment industry. Why couldn't Mokap just be Johnny Cage in a motion capture suit? Also, and just throwing this out there, why couldn't Meat be a skin for someone like either Havok or Reiko or even introduce Forest Fox as a playable character and have him have the "Meat" skin?

      You can't justify characters like Kai, Kira, and Kobra returning, because they were recruited by Liu Kang and Kabal respectively who survived Shao Kahn's invasion of Earthrealm in the defunct timeline, but are deceased (or undead) in the present timeline. 

      On top of that they would appear older than what they were at the time of their original introduction, since the present timeline has advanced 25 years after the events of the reboot, as opposed to just a few years or a decade later, as is the case with the games after MK Trilogy.

      Havok, Reiko, and the Red Dragon clan are dead. Moloch and Drahmin are also out of the picture. So who does that leave? Ashrah? Nitara? Seidan (Orderrealm) characters like Dairou, Darius, and Hotaru?

      It goes without saying that Kenshi and Bo' Rai Cho (who is unpopular, but all the more important) have earned their place on the MK roster. Li Mei, Sareena, Frost, and Fujin should return as well. But the rest of the 3D characters should be relegated to cameos because they were never that impressive or important to the story anyway.

      To have every single character return in a future game in some form or another would justify Armageddon having to happen again, which renders the point of the 2011 reboot null, since the growing number of combatants would once again destabilize the realms. And characters have to die or not appear at all in order to keep this balance in check.

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    • I'm not sure having another battle of Armageddon would make the reboot null. Raiden only prevented ONE outcome.

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    • Preventing one outcome that leads to Armageddon, such as halting the growing number of combatants in each of the realms, should account for something.

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    • Until new ones fill in the gaps, or a bunch of dead characters get ressurected, or maybe a bit of both.

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    • Agreed. Besides, in the original timeline, Armageddon came early. In hindsight, can we even say that the Armageddon game was even about the real Armageddon? I think that the real Armageddon has yet to come. And listening to what Quan Chi said at the end of MK2011, something about everything going according to plan and that he and Shinnok can take over Outworld and Earthrealm, tells me that the original timeline was the faulty timeline and the current timeline is the real one.

      Also, who said that the Red Dragon are dead? Daegon is still alive. Looks like Goro might join them. Hell, who's to say that Kai, Kira, and Kobra won't end up going to Red Dragon now that Liu Kang and Kabal are both undead?

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    • the way the timelines work, there's no "real" or "fake" ones, the current one is just that, the current and heavily-altered timeline. things went differently and, for some, far better than it did before.

      and yeah, Red Dragon is very like still kicking with Daegon alive. just a few assholes from 3D era died, and I would even go as far to say that they could easily be replaced with new playable chars in the next game if Red Dragon become a bigger thing.

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    • I have a coulple ideas for new Red Dragons myself. FYI If any of you have seen my no logner active new Red Dragon thread, these are the same ones from that post.

      Altivo


      Gender: Male


      Species: Human


      Bio: Altivo's mother was killed durring Shao Kahn's invasion, later his father died in the first Neatherrealm war. Altivo soon blamed Raiden for Earthrealm's problems. Without a family, the seven year old Altivo was taken to an orphanege, but he never forgave Raiden. Then later, much to his surprise, he was "adopted" by a very unlikely person, Mavado. Mavado saw potential in Altivo and brought him before Daegon, who allowed Mavado to train Antonio as his apprentice. For the next decade Altivo endured grueling training from Mavado, but eventually became a deadly fighter, weilding a whip. He and Altivo also became good "friends" When his training was nearly complete though, Mavado was summoned to Outworld to aid Mileena's rebellion. When he didn't report back, Altivo went to look for him, only to find out that Cassie killed his mentor. After passing Daegon's final trial, Altivo now has only one desire, to kill Cassie and avenge Mavado.


      Appearence: A tall shirtless man wearing black pants, with a fierce looking clean shaven face, with brown hair


      Fatalities. 1: He throws the whip onto the opponents throught, yanks it back, decapitating the enemy, grabs the head, throws it down, the hits it with the ship until only a bloody skull is left. Alltivo WIns! FATALITY


      2: He trips the enemy who falls onto their face, he then lashes the enemies back until the spinal cord is visiable. The then breaks the cord. Altivo Wins! FATALITY


      Personality: Altivo is a loyal Red Dragon and is prideful of his status. He despises thoise who are rich or greedy, expecially the Black Dragon, expecially morso if they try to cheat the Red Dragon. He is very loyal to Daegon, but he does have a softer side when it comes to Mavado.


      Fun fact: The word Altivo is the Spanish word for "Arrogant"


      Borte


      Gender Female


      Species: Human


      Bio, Mongolia had always suffered from numerous problems, government corruption, air pollution etc. As dissatifaction grew, some people began discussing open revolt, especially durring the Outworld and Neatherrealm wars, which hit Mongolia hard, yet the Special Forces never lift a finger to help. Borte was from a homeless family who lived on the streets of a small town that could expect no help from anyone. But one day, these went even more to hell. The Red Dragon launched a surprise attack on her "home". And their leader killed and raped her mother. She soon learned her mother's killer and rapist was non other then Hsu Hao himself. Consumed with revenge, the seven year old girl set off to find and kill Hsu Hao.


      She followed Hsu Hao and his men for a week until she finally tried to kill him. But Hsu Hao was much stronger then her. At first he wanted to kill the girl, but eventually became impressed by Borte's determination. He offered to train her, so that she could try and kill him when she grew strong enough. Hsu Hao brought Borte before Daegon, who approved of Hsu Hao training the girl. Over next decade, Borte went through Hsu Hao's painful training exercises, and often by the end of the day she had cuts and bruises. But eventually she became a very strong woman. Hsu Hao's training and living with the Red Dragon also changed the way Borte viewed life, and how she viewed Hsu Hao, whom she eventually thought of as a father. When her training was complete, Hsu Hao congradulated her, but almost immediantly after that, the Red Dragon's alarms went off, because Kenshi had been disvoered infiltrating the ranks of the Red Dragon and the rest is history. When Borte discovered her "father" had been killed by Scorpion she swore revenge and now seeks Scorpions death.


      Appearence: A somewhat muscular woman wearing Mongal warrior atire with ebony hair.


      Fatalities: 1: She draws ald Ild sword and slashes open the victems chest and spilling the inner organs. She then slices the enemies head in half. Borte Wins! FATALITY!


      2: Borte punches the enemy to the ground knocking them out, the enemy wakes up to find their hands and legs are tied to ropes attached to horses. The Horses run foreward, the enemy screams and breaks in half. Borte Wins! FATALITY!


      Personality: Borte is strong willed woman, but she has become the very thing she swore to destroy. She despises Scorpion, for killing a man she called "father", but a small part of her also hates Scorpion for denying Borte her revenge. Will Borte eventually break free of the monstrous path she choose to follw when she vowed to kill Hsu Hao, or will Hsu Hao's influence bind her to the Red Dragon forever?


      Fun Fact: Borte was the name of Genghis Kahn's first wife.

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    • Got to say these were quite interesting character ideas. I suppose this could make a bootleg character like Hsu Hao interesting, if done correctly. -DinoLor00

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    • Thank you.

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    • Lord of Paradise
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      It was a test to see if i can still post things
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    • Godzillavkk wrote:
      Thank you.

      Sorry that i couldn´t write to you earlier, but everytime i wanted to post my fanfic Red Dragon character, my comment wouldn´t upload

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    • I do hope that the Red Dragon becomes a big thing.

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    • If I were writing the MK11 story, it would be that the Red and Black Dragons have formed a new Deadly Alliance and are searching for the Kamidogu in the hopes of using them to ressurect Onaga's army. And before anyone says "But the Dragons hate eachother. No way would they work together!" Both Kano and Daegon view the other Syndicate in this alliance as just a table napkin to dispose of once they've helped them gain the Kamidogu.

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    • I can see that and I wouldn't mind it.

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    • where my pink (male) ninja at

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    • How about new stages?

      Here are some ideas of my own

      Earthrealm stages

      Red Dragon Lair

      North American Forest

      Fossil Digsite(In universe, fossilzed remnants of Zyterran Civilization on Earthrealm have been found)

      Moving traintop

      Shirai Ryu Temple


      Outworld Stages

      Imperial Palace

      Onaga's Tomb

      Edenian Resistance hideout(If a new Edenian Character is introduced or if Rain and Tanya become good guys)

      Vault of Souls

      Shao Kahn's memorial


      Chaosrealm and Orderrealm

      Chaos City

      Chaos Waterpark(Since Chaosrealmers worship water and love to have fun, I thought a fitting stage for them would be a Waterpark with no lifeguards or safety)

      Seidan City

      Seidan Prison transfer(Captured Chaosrealmers and other criminals in the backround are not only imprisoned, but also beaten, tortured, and are subject to any prison horror you can imagine)

      The Chaordic Field(A small in between passageway realm between the Chaosrealm and Orderrealm that both Chaosrealmers and Seidans fight over)

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    • Stages aren't relevant to the thread, stay on topic.

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    • Fine.

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    • Yeah, no need to get pissy. The thread is apropriately titled and thus stages aren't relevant to the topic. 

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    • bring my balding buddy dairou back

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    • Dirtbag Daryl wrote:
      bring my balding buddy dairou back

      I agree.

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    • Yeah

      Ok seriously, I do believe they should restart with the one off characters. -DinoLord00

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    • What do you mean by that?

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    • A FANDOM user
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